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PostSubject: Specialist Crafting   February 12th 2008, 9:08 am

Specialists can craft Weapons l1-l55, Armors l1-l55 and ammo.

The success rate is never better than 50%. and often much much worse.

Weapons
The only weapons really worth crafting are the l40, l45, l50 and l55 tiers.
Each weapon recipe uses:
l40: Siar Bilidend
l45: Gli
l50: Beam
l55: Beam

Shields
l41-: Siar Bilidend
l43, l45: Gli
l47+: Beam

(Metals are the 4 different thingies you get after processing the ore)
Staffs: Blue metals
Guns: Red metals
Shields: Yellow metals
Bows: Green metals
ThrowKnifes: Green metals
Knifes(1h): Black metals
Swords(2h): Black metals
Axes: Black metals
Maces: Black metals
Spears: Black metals

So:
a l40 Spear requires: Siar Bilidend + Black metals
a l45 Shield requires: Gli + Yellow metals
a l50 Staff requires: Beam + Blue metals

Best way to make anything is just to bring me a ton of mats.

Chances of success are up to 1 in 2 attempts.
Chances of a purple mod are 1 in 10 successes.
Chances of a specific purple mod are 1 in 100 successes.
Chances of a yellow are 1 in 20 successes.

Armors
Armors worth making are the l35, l37, l39, l41, l43, l45, l47, l50, l55 tiers.

l35, l37:
Melee: Jemz Riar + Greaf
Range/Force: Ward Weef + Greaf

l39, l41, l43, l45
Melee: Jim + Greaf
Range/Force: Lake + Greaf

l47
Melee/Range/Force: Gli + Rian

l50, l55
Melee/Range/Force: Beam + Rian

Pants: Blue metals
Helms: Red metals
Uppers: Yellow metals
Gloves: Green metals
Boots: Black metals

So:
a l43 force Gloves requires: Lake + Greaf + Green metals
a l35 melee Boots requires: Jemz Riar + Greaf + Black metals
a l47 ranger Set requires: Gli + Rian + All colours metals

Chances of success are up to 1 in 2 attempts.
Chances of a yellow are 1 in 20 successes.

Ammo
Ammo can be crafted in size 100 or 500 clips.
basic 100s can be bought anywhere on novus.
basic 500s can be bought on ether.

advanced ammo (the good stuff) is generally too expensive to consider crafting.
If you're a ranger class, you should gather your mats and pm a crafter directly.


UPDATE: I say Blue metals, and Black metals, here's a carification on what I mean.
Blue metals: Fetalium (blue1), Cotalrio (blue2), Baytalrous (blue3), Crotalian (blue4)
Red metals: Lutalium (red1), Lotalrio (red2), Niotalrous (red3), Motalian (red4)
Yellow metals: Ostalium (yellow1), Iritalrio (yellow2), Teitalrous (yellow3), Tutalian (yellow4)
Green metals: Haitalium (green1), Metalrio (green2), Dutalrous (green3), Setalian (green4)
Black metals: Firstalium (black1), Utalrio (black2), Protalrous (black3), Newtalian (black4)

Thier real names are a pain, so i'll refer to them as red1, blue4, yellow3, etc.
There's a pattern to the naming that's evident when you see them all lined up.

Weapons l1 - l7 require only ore1. (and whatever colour depends on whatever type of weapon as stated earlier)
l10-l28 require ore1 and ore2.
l30-40 require ore1, ore2 and ore3.
l45+ require ore1, ore2, ore3 and ore4.

Armors only ever require ore1 and ore3. (Why? no reason >.>)

But, since you'll probly obtain them all at once, 'metals' is a suitable collective naming.


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 12th 2008, 9:24 am

Anyway, yes, I completely forgot. The point of this was:

If you want stuff crafted, place an order here, short and snappy

like:

Retasha: l41 force set

or

Carolan: l41 range boots, gloves, upper


White armors, i can do free. they'll get mailed to you later
Intense armors requires an insane amount of mats, the NPC seller is cheaper.

UPDATE: After trying my hand at it a bit more, it's not all that unreasonable.
But it still is far more troublesome, and far less reliable.
If you enjoy farming mats, and mining ore, go crafting instead of NPC.
If you're a rich person who farms disena best, the NPC is easier than crafting.



Weapons are broadly too random to craft purple, yellows specifically.
If you want to try, come to me with bag fulls of mats.


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 14th 2008, 2:34 am

littlealice: l37 white ranger set
(Done, and delivered)(Boots came out Intense Smile)

littlesally: l37 white ranger set
(Done, and delivered)


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 14th 2008, 6:02 am

Carolan: l41 white ranger Chest, Gloves and Boots
(Done, and mailed)


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 14th 2008, 12:44 pm

lvl 43 Force helmet and boots Very Happy

I've decided not to bother anyone with int orders until I'm 45-47, or I'll just buy them from AH.

If you need any mats, let me know. I have a crapload of yellow ore atm, if you, or any other specs need.

DOZ EDIT: (Done, and delivered)
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PostSubject: Last Order   February 15th 2008, 4:01 am

Alita wants:

Ranger 43 Pants Int or not
Protection 43 shield.
Protection 45 shield.

That is only IF you can create those and have the time.

DOZ EDIT: (Pants done, and mailed).

DOZ EDIT: (l45 shield done, and mailed).
DOZ EDIT: (l43 shield canceled).
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 15th 2008, 5:13 pm

If you're gonna request something fancy like Intense or Protection, you should bring me mats.
They sell for millions cuz they cost millions to make >_<
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 15th 2008, 9:11 pm

Reill- 43 Range set thanks!

DOZ EDIT: (Done, and mailed)(Gloves came out Intense)
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 15th 2008, 11:34 pm

I'm going to go ahead and request int 47 force set, with white shoes for when I get all the mats, I won't have it all for a while. :3 I'm already saving all my metals/gli/rian..any idea how many stacks would be enough? XD and is anything else better to be white than int besides shoes? ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 16th 2008, 12:09 am

Geez guys, give Doz a little break lol. go buy what you can, if cant buy it then ask for craft. Btw Green, lvl 47 no intense = WEAK!!!! go spend some time in ether and buy a intense set from npc Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 16th 2008, 12:19 am

Bloodica wrote:
Geez guys, give Doz a little break lol. go buy what you can, if cant buy it then ask for craft. Btw Green, lvl 47 no intense = WEAK!!!! go spend some time in ether and buy a intense set from npc Twisted Evil

...*cry at npc prices D: oh well ;x

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 16th 2008, 12:59 am

blueandyellow wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and request int 47 force set, with white shoes for when I get all the mats, I won't have it all for a while. :3 I'm already saving all my metals/gli/rian..any idea how many stacks would be enough? XD and is anything else better to be white than int besides shoes? ^^

Intense47 sets is what everyone should be aiming at. Intense50 too for mages (rangers and melee will get enough drops from pbs, hehe)

Let me give you an estimate on how much it'll cost
The amounts are the same for melee/range/force (Gli/Rian/ore1/ore3)

Helm: 5/5/22/8
Chest: 5/6/25/9
Glove: 4/5/19/7
Pant: 5/6/24/8
Boot: 4/5/18/6

Avg: 4.6/5.4/21.6/7.6 (mats consumed per attempt)
l47 success rate is like 33%, and chance of Intense is bout 5%(given a success).
So we need 3 tries to get a success, and 20 successes to get an Intense.
So we need 60 tries.

60*Avg: 276/324/1296/456

So per piece of Intensel47 armor would be:
3 stacks of Gli
4 stacks of Rian
13 stacks of ore1
5 stacks of ore3


That should be the average. You may need more, or you may need less.

UPDATE: what does this all mean?
Going by vendor price, which is quite fair since these mats get vendored all the time
3 stacks of Gli =====> 3*500k = 1.5mil
4 stacks of Rian =====> 4*400k = 1.6mil
13 stacks of ore1 =====> 13*44 gold = 13*44*2000 = 13*88k = 1.144mil
5 stacks of ore3 =====> 5*135 gold = 1.35mil
= 5.6mil

Looks like it's definately cheaper.
NPC price is avg 23mil for guaranteed 7 slot Int.

UPDATE: ewwww, its harder than 33% just to make a white. Needs more research


OK, let's say it's twice as hard as the initial estimate.

Bring me about:
6 stacks of Gli
7 stacks of Rian
26 stacks of ore1
10 stacks of ore3

for 1 piece of Intense 47 armor


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 16th 2008, 1:17 am

DOZ EDIT: (double quoting is evil and has been removed Mad)

that's a lot of ore xD I'll let you know when I have it..*need to mine more :3

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 16th 2008, 3:22 am

It's not that much ore. 6 hrs of afk mining after a chip war win gets you 30 stacks of unprocessed ore.
which gives about 40 stacks of ore1, 14 of ore2, 14 of ore3 and 14 of ore4.
in addition to all the gem/talics..
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 16th 2008, 6:49 am

l43 force white armor set, pretty please.

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 17th 2008, 2:02 am

adding on maling int sets you will have alot of white items to npc whotch will reduce price Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 17th 2008, 2:40 am

hehe.. ordering l43 range helm, boots, and lower. please and thank you ^^.

DOZ EDIT: (Done, and delivered)

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 17th 2008, 3:58 am

Chickens: l43 white ranger boots, 7 slots
DOZ EDIT: (Done, and mailed)

Chickens: l47 white force boots, 7 slots
DOZ EDIT: (Done, and mailed)


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 17th 2008, 4:02 am

CANDYMAN wrote:
adding on maling int sets you will have alot of white items to npc whotch will reduce price Smile

I finally figured out what you're trying to say.
Yes, while trying to craft Intense gear, you get a ton of whites along the way.
These whites are returned to you.
Or vendored and the money sent back to you.

You can recoup maybe 500k.
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PostSubject: I've got an order   February 17th 2008, 11:50 pm

Doz can you plz craft me a lvl 40 1 handed throwing weapon? If there's no lvl 40, then a lvl 35 one should be a good enough substitute.

You don't have to mail it to me if you want to save 5 gold, i'll prolly be on most of the day.

DOZ EDIT: (Green says she gave you her spare one so, order canceled)
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 17th 2008, 11:58 pm

can i make request too???
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 18th 2008, 12:19 pm

l45 force armor please Very Happy

I'm out of mats, let me know if I need to farm.

DOZ EDIT: (Done, and delivered)


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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 18th 2008, 8:46 pm

Retasha, I have one I don't use anymore. So I'll give it to you free, I'll try and find you Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 18th 2008, 8:49 pm

Lvl 43 int force gloves and shoes
lvl 45 int staff

please Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Specialist Crafting   February 19th 2008, 12:48 am

Aundra wrote:
can i make request too???

Yes, you may.

If they can find this thread, any cora can request.
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